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Feminist Terrorist · Sep 02, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

I thought the OP hated this game and stopped playing it.

I wouldn't mind getting FOW armor for my ele, 'cause it's kinda interesting looking, but I don't want it that much to farm for it. Monk FOW, though, yeesh, looks like pajamas.

Crispie · Sep 02, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Unfortunately(or fortunately?) its designed as a grinders gear, for those MMOers out there who love working hard at instances to get their gear. If you don't have the time to get it, don't bother complaining about not having it, its not meant for you. Sorry :\

Energizer Deth Buni · Sep 02, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by awesome sauce

To the OP: I agree completely. FoW armor is nothing but encouragement for farming bots, scams, ebay gold buying, and obese people who sit an their *** all day. But, with what ANet did with skills recently I wouldn't be surprised if they, too, ended up selling FoW for real life money.

Thx for the agreement, and Im not saying that it should be TOO EASY. I just think it would level the playing field for when the 100k an hour people could get it. I mean come on, 100k an hour??? Not too mention that shard drops have been nerfed down and ecto drops have been nerfed down.

sgtclarity · Sep 02, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

Solution: DON'T BUY IT.

If the thought of other people having it abhors you, simply close your eyes and mash wasd in hopes of running away from them!

Zinger314 · Sep 02, 2006, 03:49 AM // 03:49

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Originally Posted by Energizer Deth Buni

Thx for the agreement, and Im not saying that it should be TOO EASY. I just think it would level the playing field for when the 100k an hour people could get it. I mean come on, 100k an hour??? Not too mention that shard drops have been nerfed down and ecto drops have been nerfed down.

It's not meant for 100k an hour. It's meant for 100k a month.

Legeon · Sep 02, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by Crispie

Unfortunately(or fortunately?) its designed as a grinders gear, for those MMOers out there who love working hard at instances to get their gear. If you don't have the time to get it, don't bother complaining about not having it, its not meant for you. Sorry :\

where's the reasoning behind that logic? Just because you want FoW doesn't mean you have to get it in a week and grind like a lunatic (like I did

).

What if you stored 20k a week every week for a year. Depending on where you farm you can get 20k in 2 hours nevermind in a week. So if you did 20k a week for 1 year, you could get FoW.

Yes it takes a while but it's certainly do-able.

Exoudeous · Sep 02, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by Energizer Deth Buni

Thx for the agreement, and Im not saying that it should be TOO EASY. I just think it would level the playing field for when the 100k an hour people could get it. I mean come on, 100k an hour??? Not too mention that shard drops have been nerfed down and ecto drops have been nerfed down.

when have shard and ecto drops been nerd down please show me, cause i still find as many now as when FoW and UW were introduced in the game

Paperfly · Sep 02, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

The "I should have access to every aspect of the game I paid for" argument is mildly ridiculous. I fail to understand why this logic applies to (non-monthly-fee) online games and not single player experiences, for instance.

I never beat the original Battletoads on the NES (known for being one of the hardest games of all time). It's unfair, I didn't have the hundreds of hours* required to memorise every movement pattern so I could beat the game! But I should get to see the ending sequence, I paid for it!

I never got to experience three of the five possible "romance" trees in Baldur's Gate II (because that would've involved playing the 200 hour game three more times, and it would've been pretty tedious)! OMG, I lost out on my investment!

I've played Guild Wars for hundreds and hundreds of hours, and I haven't experienced every possible thing there is to experience about the game. That doesn't mean I've been ripped off, it means the game is huge and consequently better value for money.

*I probably spent a lot of tens, though

awesome sauce · Sep 02, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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I have a job, go to college, and I take martial arts classes on the weekends, and I still was able to get FoW armor playing the game normaly

Assumptions make an ass out of just you

Are you trying to argue that noone does these things, and that the insanely high prices of things like FoW don't play some part in it? I never made any generalizations. In "assuming" that i did, i guess the same applies to you.

On topic, I think a solution to this would be to lower the prices, but to make the quests in the forge more difficult. That way, if someone has FoW, people can say: "wow... he must be very skilled at this game" , rather than "wow, he payed a lot to get that" when they see someone with it on.

solingro · Sep 02, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by awesome sauce

On topic, I think a solution to this would be to lower the prices, but to make the quests in the forge more difficult. That way, if someone has FoW, people can say: "wow... he must be very skilled at this game" , rather than "wow, he payed a lot to get that" when they see someone with it on.

Or they would say wow, he's got another 50k to spare on top of his FoW armor to get himself a run to craft his armor

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sunh3h3 · Sep 02, 2006, 05:17 AM // 05:17

ectos were at a price range of 12k-13k b4 when i bought 120 of em for FoW armor, and what's the price now? 6-6.5k!! I worked hard to get em becuz i wanted it. I never complained that it was expensive, and now u are complaining that 6-6.5k is expensive for you?

And btw, dont give me the bullcrap of you want to buy it cuz you really like the looks. I admit I liked the way it looks, but the main reason was fulfilling a difficult goal. If Arenanet increases the ecto and shard drop rates to where their prices will drop to around 100g, i'm sure it'll be easy enough for you to get it, but when you get it like that, do you think you will feel a sense of accomplishment? Or, just have the same feeling of getting a 1.5k armor?

Demesis · Sep 02, 2006, 05:21 AM // 05:21

For the OP, I have lots of money, but I don't buy FoW armor. You know why?

IT'S F*CKING UGLY.

FoW has to be the ugliest piece of sh!t I've seen in the game. I don't know why you want to get such crap to show off.

Wait, unless your character is NOT a warrior, I guess FoW would look OKAY.

But I highly recommend Kurzick gear as they look really awesome. People get Kurzick armor not because it's a show of wealth, but because it's a head turner with it's unique and dark design.

So screw FoW armor. It's crap.

Exoudeous · Sep 02, 2006, 05:24 AM // 05:24

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Originally Posted by awesome sauce

Are you trying to argue that noone does these things, and that the insanely high prices of things like FoW don't play some part in it? I never made any generalizations. In "assuming" that i did, i guess the same applies to you.

"FoW armor is nothing but encouragement for farming bots, scams, ebay gold buying, and obese people who sit an their *** all day"

dont know how to read your own posts do you? cause i certainly dont farm bot, scam, ebay, or sit on my ass all day.

The only thing the encourages ebaying and gold selling with bot help is greed for money, and peoples laziness to not even play the game. Games are meant for challange, and fun. If every game was made so people could win and get everything easily, it would get boring fast.

There are honest people and dishonest people, why should the game be ruind for honest people, just to prevent the minority from cheating? If you dont think its fair that FoW cost so much, tough, I dont think it would be fair to the people that saved for it, just to have the price of it lessend. If the OP wants it so badly, then he/she can spend some time saving up, cause I know I did, and after a few months i got the armor, and thats when the prices of shards and ectos where higher.

guildwarsnerd · Sep 02, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

My friend got his FoW armor in 5 Months without grinding, I'd rather enjoy the game then farm my a$$ off.

Gun Pierson · Sep 02, 2006, 06:34 AM // 06:34

It took me seven months to get my fow armor + spare parts for my 55 build and I have a job too. But once I finally got it, it felt great. And it still does ofcourse. Try to enjoy the ride and not only the end point. If you really want it, you'll get there.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but dam I look sexy

(just kidding)

Griff Mon · Sep 02, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

This kind of complaining reminds me of my early days in the game when I had my own guild and new members were whining to get run to Drok's and wanted you to hand them cash so they could buy their armour. No patience to learn the game.

FoW armour (yes, I have it) took me a while to get and I worked a long time to get it. I do not play endlessly. A few hours a day for a couple of months got it for me. You gotta understand the game economy and take advantage of certain situations that come up such as market factors.

Example: Price fluctuations in materials when Factions came out. Farming for these easy to accumulate items netted a lot of cash. Totem axes which you could solo farm or farm in pairs were selling for 20K in the first few days and you could get 3 or 4 of them on a good run. Red dye went through the roof for a couple of weeks. It all depends on playing smart, and having some patience.

GloryFox · Sep 02, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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posted by Demesis
For the OP, I have lots of money, but I don't buy FoW armor. You know why?

IT'S F*CKING UGLY.

FoW has to be the ugliest piece of sh!t I've seen in the game. I don't know why you want to get such crap to show off.

Wait, unless your character is NOT a warrior, I guess FoW would look OKAY.

But I highly recommend Kurzick gear as they look really awesome. People get Kurzick armor not because it's a show of wealth, but because it's a head turner with it's unique and dark design.

So screw FoW armor. It's crap.

Agreed, you know I have 1 to two sets of 15k armor for all 6 of my characters with no regrets about not haveing FOW armor. The FOW armors are all ugly IMO. Except the Female mesmer... now that's just plain sexy!

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 02, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20

It's ridiculous to suggest that it's "not fair" for new players because they "can't farm 100K an hour." I don't know anything about earning that much that fast, so I won't comment on it. Cheapening the price on FoW armor wouldn't be fair to those of us who worked hard and raised all that gold for it the honorable way.

To make enough for FoW armor isn't that hard. It may take a while (took me 3 months once I decided I wanted it), but there's a nice sense of accomplishment when you finally do get it. The 4 things one needs to know when raising the funds for it are:

1. Where to farm
2. How to run a solo build while farming
3. Market values for items/weapons/runes/materials (should be checked as often as possible & practical)
4. How best to manage your in-game time when trying to sell stuff.

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Originally Posted by GloryFox

Agreed, you know I have 1 to two sets of 15k armor for all 6 of my characters with no regrets about not haveing FOW armor. The FOW armors are all ugly IMO. Except the Female mesmer... now that's just plain sexy!

Agree 100% with your assessment of FoW armor looks!!! I love my Mesmer's armor!

leeky baby · Sep 02, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

I understand what your saying and it was easier to get money maybe not '100k an hour' but alot easier and before Anet brought in green items which are sold cheap now that perfect gold items were very rare and cost alot more....getting FOW armour is grinding but if you want it then you have to grind...

madman420 · Sep 02, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

By the OP's reasoning crystalline swords and dwarven axes should drop more often in general farming areas. Yes Anet has developed a game that doesn't require constant grinding, but they have included certain items that appeal to players who like the constant grind. They included FoW armor in the game for those people, and not for the casual gamer who for some reason thinks that just because they paid their $50 they are entitled to every perk that the game offers.